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Conversations: Trump, Tennessee, & Abortion Bans Grab-Bag Episode, feat. Anna Eskamani & Jordan Zakarin

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You’ll forgive us if we’re a little distracted this week, if our attention is somewhat scattered.

In this super-sized episode, we catch up with returning guest, State Representative Anna Eskamani, to talk about her effort to cut through the media’s obsession with indicted ex-presidents and turn focus on the dangerous precedents being set in places like Tallahassee and Nashville.

Later, we talk with Jordan Zakarin about Florida’s most famous big-boy resident’s made-for-TV arrest, the circus that he witnessed firsthand, and how news coverage could better meet these critical moments by dismissing positions that deserve to be dismissed.

You can follow Jordan on Twitter @JordanZakarin and read his work on More Perfect Union and on his Substack, Progress Report. He’s also got a project alongside our own Thomas Kennedy, which is called SWORD. So go follow all that stuff!